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  • frying pan
    frying pan

    I gave up watching it by season 2. What they where trying to do what start a conversation but they just... didn’t.

  • Flxsh
    Flxsh

    Im just gonna say if you are planning to watch this, dont. Its not good for your mental health and its fucked up. You dont gain much from watching this. Its actually pretty traumatizing.

  • DrivingAway1
    DrivingAway1

    I like season 1 & 2 of 13rw. S1 didn't glamorize suicide but showed that no one wins, not Hannah nor the people on the tape. S2 showed off different perspectives without showing off unrealistic outcomes, what's right isn't a given. S3 gave a new character unrealistic control over the season, the motivations were very unclear. S4 was just hard to watch, nearly all of the character's decisions made me mad bc of how poor and untrusting they were considering what they've been through over the previous seasons. Overall, I appreciate the show's willingness to bring up taboo topics like suicide and its aftermath.

  • 2016
    2016

    WASTED CHARACTERS OF THE SHOW 1 SHERI HOLLAND - in my opinion she should have been Clay's girlfriend instead of Ani, because she was way more sexy and also she was a more interesting character which was completely deleted after season 2 with no reason, so sad about this: she had a lot of potential. Also for the first two seasons she was kind of important then she just vanished like nothing ever happened, she also managed to tell the truth about the STOP sign, and then she just disappears after making out with Clay in season 1. Worst mistake of the show in my opinion. 2 SCOTT REED - overall he had a good heart and he shows it in different occasions, eventhough at the begininng he was a bully he manages to sort things out he could have been a way more useful character and also he could prove that athletes are not just rapists 3 ESTELLA DE LA CRUZ - she was supposed to be the one to know the truth and the one which should prove everybody that she was a kind girl, instead she just appears without much development. PROVE ME WRONG I DARE YOU

  • RevenEdits Queen
    RevenEdits Queen

    It was like a horror movies seriously something out of Halloween or Friday the 13th wtf also killing justin off was just dumb and stupid also the whole thing with Alex being gay out of nowhere like............... and him not even ending up with Zach but with a random new character 😐😑

  • Just an old Snufkin
    Just an old Snufkin

    season 4 would have been better if Winston didn't fall in love with Alex and focused on revealing who killed Monty because he loved him. Season 4 was so wrong

  • amethyst
    amethyst

    for those of you that read the book, did half of the shit that happened in the show even happen in the book?? bc this show after the first season just kind of feels like a cash grab--

    • alexis valentine
      alexis valentine

      absolutely not, the book is completely different. it takes place over one night of clay listening to the tapes and ends w him sending them to the next person and going after skye after realising she might also be suicidal. the other characters don’t even have backstories. season 1 alone had a shit ton more than there was in the book

  • Daniel Bautista
    Daniel Bautista

    The biggest problems Sympathy on Monty after what he did to Tyler Monty’s sister being introduced, but we didn’t get to see Monty’s dad.

  • Vishal Reddy
    Vishal Reddy

    Hope all the actors in this show get do go on to do better things. This must have been a depressing process.

  • Vishal Reddy
    Vishal Reddy

    I was kinda mad how Zach ended up as before he was kind of the only one who wasn't dealing with crazy issues and looked at issues logically and called everyone out on their BS. But it makes sense why he goes down a darker path. But once again, everyone is dealing with so much shit they cant help their own friends deal with their issues. I think this is a problem in the show too. Its a lot of showing characters going through troubling shit but not a lot of support and moving past it. Lmao Clay this season is just ridiculous, the whole plot with football team is so dumb, and Alex commiting MURDER literally does not matter by the end.

  • Zoe Sager
    Zoe Sager

    I feel like everyone neglects or just flat out doesn't know, that 13 reasons why was actually a book that came out in 2007. there was never a sequel like with the show, it was a singular book about grief and teen Suicide. It wasn't who killed Bryce walker, or has Clay been victimizing him self this whole time? It was about Clay coming to terms with Hannah Backer's suicide. I'm not ripping on the show maliciously. I recently watch season one and the first ep. of season two, and frankly I really enjoyed season one. Once again I'm not hatting I just am stating an annoyances of mine surrounding the show. stay safe~ 🖤

  • Mustafa Farooqui
    Mustafa Farooqui

    Season 1:-Amazing. Season 2:-Okay. Season 3:-Forced! Season 4:-What the actual fuck is going on!!!!!

  • Benjamin Hayes
    Benjamin Hayes

    I don't hate 13 reasons why

  • Sydney Nelson
    Sydney Nelson

    Bojack Horseman did it better 😒

  • Shreyash Ghale
    Shreyash Ghale

    although it has many problems but still it a great show to watch

    • Xehanort10
      Xehanort10

      No it isn't.

  • Just a regular guy with an anime profile pic
    Just a regular guy with an anime profile pic

    The series should have ended with season 1

  • Roger Dodger
    Roger Dodger

    Gonna preface my comment by saying but I don't watch the show so I only have the material in this video and your past ones to go off. Anyway, about the whole, you shouldn't lie to protect people who do bad things but we're going to do that same thing because the people that they did bad things to were bad people mentality. It feels like, rather than teaching a lesson, it's just a commentary on how real life is. I could easily be wrong though.

  • Bell Briner
    Bell Briner

    The actors are amazing, they really could've done so much more the only episode i truly felt pain and sadness is when Justin died and thats saying something since all the episodes are like an hour long.

  • C P
    C P

    Adding Ani to the show was like putting a hat on a hat. WTF for? It just further complicated an already overly complicated story. And so many unnecessary twists. The cops dragged the river for the guns. Why were they looking for them in the first place? And nothing really came from Clay getting caught in the passed out girl’s room either. Just, all over the place like a Kanye rant. LOL

    • Xehanort10
      Xehanort10

      Ani came off as the self insert Mary Sue of someone in charge of the show.

  • Jane Doe
    Jane Doe

    A show influences our mood and personality. Especially teenagers (which this show is directed towards) this is why portraying mental illness is so hard. We take influence from the main chatacter as a sorta role model. Im in my late teens and iv reilized this, not only with me but by observing other people. Like you said before, it just shows that if you dont have a problem, your not interesting. Teens by themselves can be a bit edgy but i can tell you, after watching this it DID influence how i tought and acted. Its not really the shows fault, most media has this effect, maybe one day we'll be able to portray mental illness as something hard and something you dont want rather than 'interesting'

  • Jane Doe
    Jane Doe

    I think it should have stopped at the first season.

  • Trashmouth Kasprack
    Trashmouth Kasprack

    Honastly I started hating 13 reasons why after season 2 because they removed the bakers from the storyline

  • Noah Song
    Noah Song

    Remember when this show was based on a book or whatever

  • Malobika Roy
    Malobika Roy

    1.Hannah was the one who let Jessica get raped 2. Sometimes for Jess's anger she kiss Diago, Sometimes Justin, Sometimes Alex, 3.I really hated Ani so much idk why why she said to Winston " I was a part of it" I like wtf you didn't even see or know Hannah at all how could she be Clay's gf in season 3 ??? 4.Chole ditched Zach who helped her when she needed someone 5.While dumping the tapes at the last there was no need of Charlie & Ani to be there, there should have been Marcus, & Sheri who were in tapes !!!!

  • A .M. Ali
    A .M. Ali

    I thought monty sister and clay would hook up too after their relationship is also developed

  • Kameron Perez
    Kameron Perez

    5:13 O_o

  • Ava Skellinger
    Ava Skellinger

    How abt the fact they randomly decided to hand over aids to justin outta nowhere and make us cry lmao

  • megan nicole
    megan nicole

    My hatred for this show will never die. It only grows stronger every time I hear someone talk about it. The only reason the show made some sense in the first season is because it was based (loosely, I daresay) off of the book of the same name. But then the writers must have gotten a little high off of their success as teen drama writers and just tanked everything. Not that I'm saying the first season was good by any means. I loathe this show to its core with a deep, deep hatred.

  • Kingj42j
    Kingj42j

    For some reason i had 0 interest in watching this final season wanted the cliff notes lol.

  • Mare Malvīne Īstenā
    Mare Malvīne Īstenā

    Justin was the best character. He has the best character development and he was really trying to get better.

  • Zuzanna Dudek
    Zuzanna Dudek

    For me it just missed some scenes that should be in and consequence of theirs lies. I really miss development of Monty's story and Winston doing what he intended to do. Bringing up justice to them.

  • Riley
    Riley

    Was disappointed in Season 4 (although I shed a tear in the second to last episode), but I would also like to say that Charlie is probably the only character that I completely liked at the end (and _maybe_ Justin) If you want to comment, go ahead, that's fine, but please be respectful. I like discussing this, but also let's all be assertive and respectful.

  • Rohit Babar
    Rohit Babar

    Only reason I was hooked up with the show 1. Clay 2. Justin 3. Just want to end this series somehow

  • Leni xoxo
    Leni xoxo

    Honestly what I hated the most about this season is what they did to Zach's character🤷‍♀️

  • jodie weeks
    jodie weeks

    ani ruined everything

  • whatever_ImAGirl
    whatever_ImAGirl

    I REAAAALLY hope all these shenanigans is to prove how not trusting the adults or people who can help and fixing such grave issues by yourself can go too far. I really hope so. In this case the show is Brilliant. Otherwise it's fuming infuriating garbage

  • Bxbxb 1_
    Bxbxb 1_

    Season 4 was horrible. Shit plot and what even happened to the characters??? AND KILLING OFF JUSTIN?!!! WTF WERE THEY THINKING?!!!

  • Rose Tyler Bad Wolf
    Rose Tyler Bad Wolf

    I never watched the three seasons after the first one.

  • Jack Cotter
    Jack Cotter

    Anis a bad character and Justin shouldn’t have died

  • Kalyani Menon
    Kalyani Menon

    The last season was so exhausting. Its very hard to watch it .like halfay through it you just get tired

  • Maria Skabardonis
    Maria Skabardonis

    Yeah this season just became to much riverdale and pretty little liars. Only less guilty pleasure a lot of this season except for some scenes weren't very enjoyable. I am mad they killed off my favorite character for shock value. I do think the show should have ended with s2

  • snape's child
    snape's child

    The biggest problem in 13 reasons why was Bryce and Monty. Ofc lying is bad, but you know what else is bad, smashing someone's head to sink and raping them till they bleed. So i wasn't mad just a little bit that they killed Bryce and put the blame on Monty. In my country there is a saying" dinsizin hakkından imansız gelir" and that means " who would beat a bad person? an even worse person would" I'm happy they did that cause everyone did bad things but they couldn't compete with wildly raping people

  • Savannah Rains
    Savannah Rains

    Season 4 was insane. They literally just put every social issue in there

  • CK
    CK

    It was so sad to see that the only person who tried to get better had to die. I mean seriously Justin deserved better.

  • Blah blah blah
    Blah blah blah

    Say what you want about Bryce, but protesting at his funeral is disgusting. Victims or not.

  • Sayuli Asami
    Sayuli Asami

    Alex Mayers: Passed by the fact that Justin dyeing. Me: Crying for 1 hour over his death 😭😢😪😿👊🏻👁👄👁

  • TAGamer
    TAGamer

    there is no "problem" with the show, you just wish it was wrote a different way -_- it's an opinion not a problem, if your opinion is a problem then again opinion...

    • Xehanort10
      Xehanort10

      There are many problems with the show. And the show didn't teach you or anyone else anything.

  • TAGamer
    TAGamer

    the only things that the police are going to do is put them in a jail and lock them up for who knows how long, i think it was important for them to learn from their actions and LEARN to not repeat them, no it was not okay to lie. This show taught me to not mess up ever or it could significant consequences that you'll always regret. and that an important thing to remember guys i think yeah all of ppl might know that already but i think it shows that reason for everything you could possibly do wrong not just one thing like cheating

  • Izzie JH
    Izzie JH

    This show could've been so good ! Damn :(

  • Homra
    Homra

    Why doesn't Netflix have season 4?

  • whatever_ImAGirl
    whatever_ImAGirl

    THAT SHOW HAS A SEASON 4??@??!?@?@ WHYYY

  • White Wolf
    White Wolf

    Season 1 : The tapes. Season 2 : Polaroids. Season 3 : Riverdale. Season 4 : Horror. Season 5 : Hannah resurrection. Season 6 : Alien Invasion.

  • A D
    A D

    "I loved them right away." But WHY? Everyone is so boring, overly dramatic, and self serious!

  • Raphael Menorca
    Raphael Menorca

    I haven't even watched season 3, not even planning on watching it

  • kousetsuhana
    kousetsuhana

    had to wait until after watching the series to watch this, so sorry for being late! Lovely video, I actually prefer your essays to your cartoon videos. Love the graphics and the analysis.

  • Rose Tea
    Rose Tea

    Like she killed herself and that’s it that’s part of why the book is so tragic everyone moves on other than when they want something to feel bad about to feel better about themselves.

  • LPSjayvyn
    LPSjayvyn

    Did they really have to kill off justin; the only person actually changing. I bawled my eyes out

  • Zops Renzo
    Zops Renzo

    I finished the entire show to watch this worth it

  • Ella Nettling
    Ella Nettling

    I just realize that this show has a totally different name in my country. Instead of translating a number, the plural of Reason and a question word, they just named it 'dead girls aren't lying' in my country. Not sure if that is the weirdest or the laziest translation...

    • Marshal
      Marshal

      Like it sounds cool.. but not If it was "dead girls don't lie" or something like that is really cool.

  • Suhani Singh
    Suhani Singh

    just why did they have to kill justin man i cried way too much

  • Sam
    Sam

    lolpl

  • Gabriela Santana
    Gabriela Santana

    I got tired of this show after the first season🧍🏼‍♀️

  • Uni-Cano
    Uni-Cano

    I hate jess’s character the most she plays with Justin and the disabled kid literally back and forth example: She does the thing with the disabled kid then goes to Justin and does the same thing then goes back to the disabled kid and hooking up with Justin like did they run out of ideas

  • Madelaine Heis
    Madelaine Heis

    I think what most people forget or don't even know is that the first season of 13 reasons why was actually a book and Netflix made a series out of it. everything after season 1 isn't written by that author anymore but by Netflix, which is probably why only season 1 is like the real show and the rest only a follow-up

  • HIMESPIT
    HIMESPIT

    Bruh, this shit should have stopped in season 1.

  • Getmypastamasta
    Getmypastamasta

    I didn’t even listen I just heard “it’s over” THANK FUCK

  • Jasmin Yağmur
    Jasmin Yağmur

    jessica davis is annoying, mean and selfish. -She is so self-centered. She messes with other people's feelings to get over her own traumas. She acts like she is the only one that is going through a lot while two of the most important people in her life, Justin and Alex, is messed up too. Plus, she always says that she does not need a man in her life when she actually does. She couldn't stay single for like a week after Justin wanted to give a break. She immediately run to Diego and told Justin that she is with Diego because she is lonely. And, she is not even aware of her mistakes.

  • Jelena Radojevic
    Jelena Radojevic

    bryce is dead? oh. a lot changed from the first season

  • Ariana
    Ariana

    this show should’ve stopped after the first season.

  • MartDarts
    MartDarts

    Riverdale's distant cousin

  • cool beans
    cool beans

    I’m going to be in 9th grade please tell me this is nothing like hs

  • Kayleigh Nguyen
    Kayleigh Nguyen

    I really enjoyed the 1st season but I can’t seem to watch the other 3 bc of how poorly people told me it was. the way they present mental health is not healthy, or so i heard, so I don’t want to watch anything that will make me feel worse than I already do

    • Mitja Mackenzie
      Mitja Mackenzie

      The second is ok The third is great The fourth is entertaining but badl

  • Sumaiya Raya
    Sumaiya Raya

    I really wanted them to play "night we met" song at least for once

  • Sumaiya Raya
    Sumaiya Raya

    Just watched the whole season to watch Ross butler as Zach. I love him. And of course they forgot his whole existence 🐸

  • Emily Sjoblom
    Emily Sjoblom

    Am I the only who was wondering how the crap Clay was able to escape the psych ward? When I was getting help for my depression and was hospitalized, I was on a locked unit, and patients had no way of accessing personal belongings such as clothes and shoes. That is a hole in the script that has bothered me very much.

  • Georgia Emert
    Georgia Emert

    I literally thought the show was about American school problems that exist today because the stuff was in my school

  • Miss
    Miss

    It should’ve ended with season 3

  • Veann Grigajtis
    Veann Grigajtis

    How could they kill Justin? That makes me so sad and I don't even want to watch season four. (Of course, the past two seasons have been a mess and this is the third season past when the show should have ended as well.)

  • Selena Vielma
    Selena Vielma

    I liked the first 2 seasons because it made sense. Season 3 I forced myself to get through and I didnt even bother with season 4 :/

  • Breonna Smith
    Breonna Smith

    I loved this last season 🤷🏾‍♀️🤷🏾‍♀️

  • M E
    M E

    it's a total mess because it was never meant to have 2 seasons not to mention 4... But they saw its success and said let's milk it to the ground. The last 3 seasons could have been a separate show and no one would notice that its in the same universe as Hannah...

  • Rana Safi
    Rana Safi

    I think they are all guilty for killing Monty and for Bryce being killed but would ruining their lives fix things? I mean they're already ruined and both guys are already dead so I guess they're trying to fix whatever is left which is their own lives. In their mind, no one cares anyway so like why ruin it all? They feel like they've gone through so much which is true so they draw the line of enough is enough.

  • Dragon DGB Wiki
    Dragon DGB Wiki

    Season 1: 13 reasons why I killed myself Season 2: 13 reasons why I had a trial Season 3: 13 reasons why I killed Bryce Season 4: 13 reasons why I framed Monty

  • Leable
    Leable

    The biggest thing that struck me here is that the actor who plays Clay's therapist is also the actor who played the head detective (and my favourite character) in CSI: New York

  • Kassem Jaber
    Kassem Jaber

    IT WAS A GOOD SHOW BUT IT WAS TO DEPRESSING

  • M I K A E L S O N
    M I K A E L S O N

    Do a video about Euphoria pleasee pleasee

  • Amelie
    Amelie

    The first season was so different from the other 3 but I loved it anyways 😂💀

  • Edgyfirebender r
    Edgyfirebender r

    Tbh tyler down was the only character that stayed and didn’t get ruined

  • Edgyfirebender r
    Edgyfirebender r

    Alex in this season is traassshhhh

  • Mariam Ahmed
    Mariam Ahmed

    why dose every time he makes a 13rw vid he changes the way he edits

  • Best Boi
    Best Boi

    I just can’t believe it lasted 4 seasons.

  • Desiree Mayfield
    Desiree Mayfield

    I have nvr been more confused I stopped watching after the first and half of the second season

  • Kristopher Klein Clemeno
    Kristopher Klein Clemeno

    I'm not sure how they even managed to reach Season 4. 😂

  • • Barbs
    • Barbs

    They should’ve made Estela try and figure out who really killed Bryce... instead they wasted her character

  • • Barbs
    • Barbs

    I felt like they should’ve killed Clay’a character off at the end considering it started with him and Hannah... BUT NOOO THEY WANTED TO KILL JUSTIN WHO WAS LITERALLY MINDING HIS OWN BUSINESS TRYING TO GET BETTER

  • Holly Won't
    Holly Won't

    It took me 3 tries to get through the first episode, then I wasn’t paying attention and ended up on episode 5 not knowing what happened besides a “camping trip or something”. THEN I just asked my friend to tell me who died so I didn’t have to torture myself. Season’s 1&2 were watchable and held my interest, 3 was bleh, and what I saw of 4 - straight up garbage. Glad it’s over.

  • Devonte Rosales
    Devonte Rosales

    This season would have problems and then forget about them in the next episode.

  • mastermind224
    mastermind224

    The writers really messed up Jessica's character imo

  • Patricia Rojas
    Patricia Rojas

    I watched the whole 4th season just so i could watch this video .. Im so tired :) this was the worse season and i just can’t believe i watched the whole thing

  • Singer_lover526
    Singer_lover526

    I think it should have ended at session two I think the whole who killled whenever his name is was dumb lol

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